Discussion: Proposal
in: Swampfox; Swampfox > 2014-08-21
Aug 22, 2014 7:01 PM
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This might be the perfect opportunity to change the name to something less awful than "ROGAINE", justified by tweaking the format just enough to constitute a new & distinct discipline (decent maps, reliable control placement, pleasant vegetation, reasonable entry fees, regular ol' pin-punching, etc.). ;-)
Aug 23, 2014 12:30 AM
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I wasn't proposing a specific event, I was proposing a new concept with a different name and particular attributes.
Aug 23, 2014 12:32 AM
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That said, I would certainly be willing to help with the administrative aspects of a Happy Jack 24-Hour Navigation Race (see what I did there...?).
Aug 23, 2014 12:33 AM
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p.s. This new discipline would require all potentially deadly cliffs to be mapped.
Aug 23, 2014 3:05 AM
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My impression was that JJ wasn't objecting to the potentially deadly unmapped cliff so much as he was objecting that the potentially deadly unmapped cliff was located so close to a control. As long as we placed our potentially deadly unmapped cliffs well away from any control, I am guessing it would probably be fine with JJ.
Aug 23, 2014 3:09 AM
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Brooke's thinking up top is absolutely brilliant, btw . If you come up with a new sport, then there's no way around the fact that you will necessarily need a name for that sport.
And you would also need a set of rules specific to the sport. Rule #1 could be a ban on all really unhappy people. Not that any names come to mind, but, you know, it seems like a good first principle, just in case.
And you would also need a set of rules specific to the sport. Rule #1 could be a ban on all really unhappy people. Not that any names come to mind, but, you know, it seems like a good first principle, just in case.
Aug 23, 2014 3:12 AM
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I wonder if there's an easier approach than the Swedish method of moving the cliff...
Aug 23, 2014 10:40 PM
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Yes, it is a daunting undertaking, and you are probably not up to that challenge.
Never fear, there is a doughty professional event production company just out west yonder to which you could outsource. Yes, they require a lot of money for their exemplary services, but it must be worth it, right?
Never fear, there is a doughty professional event production company just out west yonder to which you could outsource. Yes, they require a lot of money for their exemplary services, but it must be worth it, right?
Aug 24, 2014 9:36 AM
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What bbrooke suggests is a smart idea because our sports (rogaine, O) have too many rules and so by
creating your own format outside the rules makes a lot of sense to me. But it would splinter our already splintered set of navigation-based racing. Sorta how rogaine probably started in the first place and very much why I started the adventure running races in the Golden Horseshoe.
But seriously...
Need there be separate (and Numerous) layers of admin to promote and carry out our sport (O, rogaine, AR). Let's be honest O, rogaine and AR are essentially the same sport as they involve navigation with map and compass. Why distinguish between them? Some of these sports are
Only done on foot and some are only done on bike, in a canoe, on skis .... While another is done as multi sport. The key link is navigation.
But instead of working to promote a collective sport we work (sometimes hard) to distinguish the differences between them and end up diluting
race fields and technical expertise. Collectively the sport is much bigger.
Racing on topo maps is fun and enjoyable and racing on detailed O maps is also fun as is racing or training on a flight photo. It is all navigation.
So imagine how big our sport would be if people in O, AR and rogaine and those city chase races all worked together to promote what we do. That would be a big sport that included volunteers and companies and races on detailed maps and others on basic maps. Some
In the city and others in the forest. Some 8 minutes long and others 8 days long.
But what would we call it. You could translate a name from Swedish that describes nothing about the sport so that seems silly. You could take some initials of the founders or make an acronym that sounds like a hair product but surely that is even sillier.Or you could call it a race that was adventurous and that makes the most sense to me. But then that would never fly given the history of not getting along. so
MErgeo's navigation racing term is a good one.
Take the 'navigation racing' community and promote the heck out of all the races out there. Work together to make something bigger than the sum of it's current parts.
creating your own format outside the rules makes a lot of sense to me. But it would splinter our already splintered set of navigation-based racing. Sorta how rogaine probably started in the first place and very much why I started the adventure running races in the Golden Horseshoe.
But seriously...
Need there be separate (and Numerous) layers of admin to promote and carry out our sport (O, rogaine, AR). Let's be honest O, rogaine and AR are essentially the same sport as they involve navigation with map and compass. Why distinguish between them? Some of these sports are
Only done on foot and some are only done on bike, in a canoe, on skis .... While another is done as multi sport. The key link is navigation.
But instead of working to promote a collective sport we work (sometimes hard) to distinguish the differences between them and end up diluting
race fields and technical expertise. Collectively the sport is much bigger.
Racing on topo maps is fun and enjoyable and racing on detailed O maps is also fun as is racing or training on a flight photo. It is all navigation.
So imagine how big our sport would be if people in O, AR and rogaine and those city chase races all worked together to promote what we do. That would be a big sport that included volunteers and companies and races on detailed maps and others on basic maps. Some
In the city and others in the forest. Some 8 minutes long and others 8 days long.
But what would we call it. You could translate a name from Swedish that describes nothing about the sport so that seems silly. You could take some initials of the founders or make an acronym that sounds like a hair product but surely that is even sillier.Or you could call it a race that was adventurous and that makes the most sense to me. But then that would never fly given the history of not getting along. so
MErgeo's navigation racing term is a good one.
Take the 'navigation racing' community and promote the heck out of all the races out there. Work together to make something bigger than the sum of it's current parts.
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