Discussion: Day 2

Well done bringing the heat on day two of a major weekend.

About #3--in another O' universe, these are popularly referred to as BAOC controls.

Interesting that you prefer Lord Hill over Ebey. I'm the other way 'round.

Though, I think course design has something to do with it. I'm not a fan of super-climby courses, and it's easy to make Lord Hill miserable. In 2012, we staged up high and finished in the bowl for a net downhill, so this would have been a Lord Hill course I would have enjoyed running.

That's weird, I was taught from an early age that a BAOC control is any control straight up a hill from wherever you happen to be. And the bigger the hill, the more BAOC it is.

And usually you can see that next control from the previous one, but it's 83 contours directly above you through a field of poison oak.

Are there any other clubs with characteristic controls?

- A COC control is one you can see, but there are 80m of dark green between you and the flag
- A QOC control is on a 0.05m boulder
- A CSU control is surrounded by green briar
- An OCIN control is in an impossibly steep, muddy reentrant that you can't get out of
- An UNO control is on a 2m boulder, and there are 15 boulders in the control circle
- An SDO control is on a Saguaro

Ouch. How does the saguaro get to SDO territory?! There are big fines for that.

- A GPHXO control is in a reentrant filled with cholla, and there are six unmapped reentrants in the circle
- A TSN control is on a saguaro with arms, and there are five unarmed saguaros on the line of sight from the previous control.

An SDO control is one where you've successfully navigated to the control location in the horizontal plane, only to discover you're at the top of a 15m cliff and the flag is at the bottom, directly beneath you.

The most authentic COC control is a combination of the above - it's 80m away through dark green on a 0.05m boulder surrounded by blackberries, and you can't see the flag and never will unless you're standing on the boulder, which if you are you'll never know because it's covered in moss, debris, and bushes.

Also, the winning split will be the person who takes the 2.7 km around trail route. But really, there's no winners.

In legend, COC controls are 80m away on questionable point features surrounded by dark green (and certainly never visible, I don't know where Ian got that from).

In reality, COC controls are behind rootstocks along trails.

I think we need to do a paneled graphic of this. "View of club's traditional control from the previous control."

#3 has a tiny little stone there, I found it. The bunch of really large stomps around kind of dwarf the small mossy thing. I would put it on map _UNDER_ the contour line though.
I spent 5 minutes on that thing.

#5 is tricky - I think the vegetation has much changed there. BUT there is actually a control flag hanging there. Who put it there?

Wut. Like, an actual orienteering flag?

Yeah, but no punch. Looked like a training thing. Maybe the Bradies?

Doubt it, they have their own areas in the south. Are you sure you didn't hallucinate this?

I've heard of other stories of random orienteering flags popping up here and there. Could be a scout troop, for example, doing their own form of orienteering outside official events.

I could replace it with bag of chips and a beer.