Discussion: WT report coming?
in: Mr Wonderful; Mr Wonderful > 2017-09-30
Oct 19, 2017 4:47 PM
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Bash:
You write great reports and I'm looking for more content for our 2017 Race Report section. :)
Oct 19, 2017 4:56 PM
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I wrote one, but it was perhaps overly long and I think the tone was off, because I was too freshly disappointed in missing the full course, so while it was a fantastic experience, awesome course, and my teammates were great, I'm not sure it came across that way. Perhaps a rewrite/editing and an unhide now with more time passed as I am excited to return in 2018 for Michigan Top Ten & Full Course or Bust, if offered, at the true North American Champs.
Oct 19, 2017 8:51 PM
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Bash:
We don't mind "long" and we don't even mind "disappointed" but if your feelings have changed after sleeping on it, then by all means, give it an edit and let us see inside your race. You always have great insights.
Speaking of which, you've said a couple of things in the USARA discussion thread that I was thinking but didn't want to write because it's not my country. Thanks for that!
-- Yes, orienteering IS a point-to-point sport! Just like AR, there are plenty of orienteers who hate rogaine-style navigation events because they aren't the "pure" form of the sport. Regardless of what American racers prefer for their national champs race format, it isn't a choice of orienteering vs. AR.
-- No, it is not a "failure" to complete an official short course in a point-to-point adventure race. Most of the ARWS races have short courses and I would be proud to finish one, just as I'm proud of WT racers who completed official short courses when so many teams were unable to do that. It's a huge accomplishment and those short courses allow us to have Snowpants and six rookie teams in the same race.
I know Broots didn't mean to insult anyone. I really don't understand how it's more of a shared experience when a top team clears a rogaine course while other teams visit half the CPs.
But it's not my country so it's not my business. For what it's worth, we've had interesting feedback from two U.S. teams in the past, suggesting that WT is not for everyone:
- "Too much bushwhacking. I wasn't expecting that."
- "Not enough CPs. You should have included a lot more CPs. That would make it a better race." (He was disappointed when I said that if we could have gotten away with even fewer CPs, we absolutely would have done that.)
Other U.S. teams like our format and we're glad when they come, especially the ones who bring us yummy treats. :) Btw thanks very much for your kind comments, which Bob and I both read yesterday (and blushed a little).
Speaking of which, you've said a couple of things in the USARA discussion thread that I was thinking but didn't want to write because it's not my country. Thanks for that!
-- Yes, orienteering IS a point-to-point sport! Just like AR, there are plenty of orienteers who hate rogaine-style navigation events because they aren't the "pure" form of the sport. Regardless of what American racers prefer for their national champs race format, it isn't a choice of orienteering vs. AR.
-- No, it is not a "failure" to complete an official short course in a point-to-point adventure race. Most of the ARWS races have short courses and I would be proud to finish one, just as I'm proud of WT racers who completed official short courses when so many teams were unable to do that. It's a huge accomplishment and those short courses allow us to have Snowpants and six rookie teams in the same race.
I know Broots didn't mean to insult anyone. I really don't understand how it's more of a shared experience when a top team clears a rogaine course while other teams visit half the CPs.
But it's not my country so it's not my business. For what it's worth, we've had interesting feedback from two U.S. teams in the past, suggesting that WT is not for everyone:
- "Too much bushwhacking. I wasn't expecting that."
- "Not enough CPs. You should have included a lot more CPs. That would make it a better race." (He was disappointed when I said that if we could have gotten away with even fewer CPs, we absolutely would have done that.)
Other U.S. teams like our format and we're glad when they come, especially the ones who bring us yummy treats. :) Btw thanks very much for your kind comments, which Bob and I both read yesterday (and blushed a little).
Oct 20, 2017 1:00 AM
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I am saddened that "not enough CPs" was from my teammate! He's generally a nice guy, I swear. Just occasionally misguided. :) I'll cancel him out! Fewer! Shout out to 2013 that didn't have CP1 on the map with the start/finish.
The funny thing is I'm guessing many no-thanks-for-AR-as-a-rogaine love rogaines themselves. They are fun events. I host one! I go to them!
The funny thing is I'm guessing many no-thanks-for-AR-as-a-rogaine love rogaines themselves. They are fun events. I host one! I go to them!
Oct 20, 2017 2:00 AM
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Version 2.0 up, only for when you are stuck in an airport with a long layover.
Oct 20, 2017 5:20 AM
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Bash:
Thank you! I look forward to it. :)
Haha, I'd forgotten about 2013 too. That was pretty cool.
Haha, I'd forgotten about 2013 too. That was pretty cool.
Oct 20, 2017 5:40 AM
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Bash:
I've read it and posted it on our site. Great recap of your adventures and I love the engineer-style post-race analysis. Thanks for your support and enthusiasm for WT!
Oct 20, 2017 5:42 AM
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Bash:
While I'm in the neighbourhood, I'm looking forward to W4J's report too! :)
Oct 20, 2017 9:18 PM
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I'm in heck month for work (Domestic Violence Awareness Month) and when I come up for air...I will xtend many kudos for great team members, a fantastic race format and a pro tip that maybe I could have used more than a five day rest. ;)
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