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Discussion: Are you saying you orientee...

in: Cristina; Cristina > 2007-10-22

Oct 23, 2007 2:50 PM # 
Are you saying you orienteer with a pistol in Tuscon?
Oct 23, 2007 3:17 PM # 
What, and carry extra weight? Are you kidding?

We had someone show up with a gun on him at the meet. As far as I could tell he carried with him the whole time. I guess you wouldn't want to get in his way on the course...
Oct 23, 2007 3:43 PM # 
What about up in Alaska where there's Baaars and whatnot to condend with...?
Oct 23, 2007 4:23 PM # 
These would be vacationing Ursidae from Texas? Or do they say it like that in Alaska too?
Oct 23, 2007 4:26 PM # 
The international Rogaine rules specifically forbid carrying weapons, but used to also specifically say that it may be okay to carry firearms in North America, because there might be bears there and the Australians who wrote the rules don't claim to know anything about bears and they might be scary and dangerous.

Arizona has rattlesnakes, but snakes are evidentally not adequate reason for firearms, since we know that Australia has venomous snakes.
Oct 23, 2007 4:30 PM # 
Definitely vacationing Ursidae!
Oct 23, 2007 4:59 PM # 
Some of the JROTC kids at the last St. Louis meet I was at wished they had guns after seeing some does and bucks in the forest (or at least this is what they told me at the finish line).
Oct 23, 2007 9:06 PM # 
Which reminds me, have we properly discussed, somewhere on AP, the shooting range at the Cobb CA A-meet? I haven't noticed it, if we have.
Oct 24, 2007 5:15 AM # 
Shooting range? Did the courses go near or through? Was there active shooting over the weekend? Do tell!
Oct 24, 2007 11:04 AM # 
I should get a picture of the map, but until then, yes, I was on the red course, and it looped around a hill that they were shooting at from a shooting range. I didn't realize there was a shooting range, though there it was on the map when I looked later, and just heard the gunshots changing in direction relative to me as I navigated. I decided maybe I should make some noise so they wouldn't shoot me, and so I whooped a bit, and when that didn't do anything I screamed (I guess the idea was that I would make them think they'd hit me or something, rather silly) and then I finally just shouted, HOLD YOUR FIRE! That seemed to actually work because I didn't hear any more firing for about 10 minutes by which time I was much further away. Vlad said that the best route choice for blue took you right behind the people shooting.
Oct 24, 2007 1:09 PM # 
Yeah, Vlad was pretty peeved. I was a bit rattled, too, but then I tried to recall what Ed White told me about live fire exercises and tried to derive somethign positive from the experience.

It would have been nice to warn people about that.
Oct 24, 2007 10:51 PM # 
I just looked at my map again and saw the shooting range symbol. I use that symbol in OCAD for all sorts of things and whenever I do, I think to myself, "how often do people actually have to map actual shooting ranges?" Our course (green) stayed behind the shooters, apparently. I heard the shooting but wasn't freaked out, thinking, "the organizers must know what's going on and must be keeping us safe". But then when I got back people said there were hunters on the map, which is a different story. So what's the real story? Hunters, shooting range, or both?

Looking at the map, it appears that the target was 10+ meters lower than the summit of the hill. I don't know anything about guns; could a stray bullet have cleared the summit and injured a runner on the other side?

I had scheduled myself to take a Ladies Shotgun Clinic in Kenmore, WA, last June, but then I forgot.
Oct 24, 2007 11:38 PM # 
The biggest danger was probably not a stray bullet going into the path of the orienteer, but rather a stray orienteer going into the path of the bullets.

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