Discussion: not much to say there...
in: PG; PG > 2011-06-04
Jun 4, 2011 6:04 PM
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... to 1, if the slope running isn't superb, then 100m before the line of cairns, you could have climbed to just below the next index contour - flatter -> better running and the control becomes super easy with the long re-entrant.
to 7, looks like you got nervous just before the gigantic spur which was blocking the sight line.
to 11, other way round the hill perhaps :)
How squidgy are the marshes? Oftentimes that's the fastest downhill running.
Nice orienteering, congrats!
to 7, looks like you got nervous just before the gigantic spur which was blocking the sight line.
to 11, other way round the hill perhaps :)
How squidgy are the marshes? Oftentimes that's the fastest downhill running.
Nice orienteering, congrats!
Jun 4, 2011 6:26 PM
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gail:
Marshes were not very wet, but they were very lumpy and hiding ditches. Definitely the slowest running out there.
Jun 4, 2011 6:46 PM
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PG:
The cairns were actually big wooden poles marking the Sheep's Head Way. Very useful. On day 3 there are also such poles, but they won't be mapped. I heard comments that today would have better without them on the map.
To 1, you're right, higher would have been better. The running on my route was OK, and I think at some point I was looking at 2 on the map for a while and heading there. But I was on a decent shelf, also found 1 with no difficulty.
To 7, just sometimes (most of the time) the contours seem obvious, and sometimes (not so often) they don't. The spur was blocking my view, but usually on a spur like that I can tell exactly where I am, and for whatever reason I was having my doubts, so being a little careful. Got over the spur and the control was obvious.
To 11 I was actually heading for the bare rock, best running.
By the way, got to the start the fellow calling people up said my name, and then said, Hello, I met you out in Colorado. And I remembered just enough of him to venture a first name guess, Bernard, and he seemed quite please I had come that close, I think it was really Brendon, last name something like Creedon? I asked if he was also running. No, he was the planner for the day. Any advice on where the running was best? Stay high.
Nice fellow, and set real nice courses.
Also met an Irish guy Eoin Rothery (sp?), said we both were at WOC 78 in Norway, he's now living in Australia. Nice chat with him on the walk back to the car park.
Plus chatted up a few other Irish. All but one very very friendly. More on her later.... :-)
To 1, you're right, higher would have been better. The running on my route was OK, and I think at some point I was looking at 2 on the map for a while and heading there. But I was on a decent shelf, also found 1 with no difficulty.
To 7, just sometimes (most of the time) the contours seem obvious, and sometimes (not so often) they don't. The spur was blocking my view, but usually on a spur like that I can tell exactly where I am, and for whatever reason I was having my doubts, so being a little careful. Got over the spur and the control was obvious.
To 11 I was actually heading for the bare rock, best running.
By the way, got to the start the fellow calling people up said my name, and then said, Hello, I met you out in Colorado. And I remembered just enough of him to venture a first name guess, Bernard, and he seemed quite please I had come that close, I think it was really Brendon, last name something like Creedon? I asked if he was also running. No, he was the planner for the day. Any advice on where the running was best? Stay high.
Nice fellow, and set real nice courses.
Also met an Irish guy Eoin Rothery (sp?), said we both were at WOC 78 in Norway, he's now living in Australia. Nice chat with him on the walk back to the car park.
Plus chatted up a few other Irish. All but one very very friendly. More on her later.... :-)
Jun 4, 2011 7:38 PM
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walk:
Say Hi to the mapper, Marcus, if you get a chance. We had a very enjoyable week in France camped across from him and family. Also note that Martin Flynn is the author of the Ór program we use for results with great success. Looks like a fine venue.
Jun 4, 2011 8:27 PM
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"got over the spur and the control was obvious" - exactly!
There's a Daddy Creedon called Bernard, several younger ones - Brian, Ailbhe, Conor, and the list goes on... and yeah, courses (seen yours and Gail's so far) look good.
Sounds like there's a story coming...
There's a Daddy Creedon called Bernard, several younger ones - Brian, Ailbhe, Conor, and the list goes on... and yeah, courses (seen yours and Gail's so far) look good.
Sounds like there's a story coming...
Jun 4, 2011 9:22 PM
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PG:
The unfriendly one....
I'd finished, was waiting for Gail to come in (she'd started later than I had) I thought i would wander out a bit to take a few photos. Not many people around, as folks seemed to finish and then before long head back to the car park.
As part of my effort to chat up the locals, I went up to a couple of guys to inquire if it was OK to wander out a bit (assumed they were Irish and would know what the local custom was), but they turned out not to speak English at all. Moved on to the next person, a women maybe in her 40s.
To my inquiry she said I definitely needed to go back to the download station and ask for permission, plus she said she really didn't like to have people out there because she might think they were by a control and get confused. All said very very seriously.
So I said all I wanted to do was take a few photos of the terrain.
Well, now she got going. I certainly couldn't do that because I wasn't an official photographer. And I needed to be official because they had rules about taking photos of young kids and you had to follow them, because with digital photography and computers you never knew what people would do.
I protested mildly that I was just going to photograph a bit of the terrain.
But she was on roll now, kept going on about all the bad things I was going to do, and then finished up by saying that she was in "Child Protection Services."
My guess is that it has been many a year since she last smiled or laughed.
Skaking my head in amazement, I beat a retreat. And then, of course, circled around a bit and wandered off where I wanted to go in the first place. :-)
I'd finished, was waiting for Gail to come in (she'd started later than I had) I thought i would wander out a bit to take a few photos. Not many people around, as folks seemed to finish and then before long head back to the car park.
As part of my effort to chat up the locals, I went up to a couple of guys to inquire if it was OK to wander out a bit (assumed they were Irish and would know what the local custom was), but they turned out not to speak English at all. Moved on to the next person, a women maybe in her 40s.
To my inquiry she said I definitely needed to go back to the download station and ask for permission, plus she said she really didn't like to have people out there because she might think they were by a control and get confused. All said very very seriously.
So I said all I wanted to do was take a few photos of the terrain.
Well, now she got going. I certainly couldn't do that because I wasn't an official photographer. And I needed to be official because they had rules about taking photos of young kids and you had to follow them, because with digital photography and computers you never knew what people would do.
I protested mildly that I was just going to photograph a bit of the terrain.
But she was on roll now, kept going on about all the bad things I was going to do, and then finished up by saying that she was in "Child Protection Services."
My guess is that it has been many a year since she last smiled or laughed.
Skaking my head in amazement, I beat a retreat. And then, of course, circled around a bit and wandered off where I wanted to go in the first place. :-)
Jun 4, 2011 9:42 PM
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Weird. Ignore her next time, or better, walk past, smile, wave the camera and head on out.
I've never heard of "official photographers" at orienteering events in Ireland.
I've never heard of "official photographers" at orienteering events in Ireland.
Jun 5, 2011 2:38 AM
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BP:
FYI Eoin Rothery on AP as O-ing was in West Australia (well after my time) and now Sydney. Small world at times!
Jun 5, 2011 9:13 PM
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BOF have gone through a lot of pain about child photography and stuff, but I think decent conclusions were come to. It's a shame that people like that are trying to kick it off in Ireland too.
Jun 5, 2011 9:27 PM
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I presume it's just one person with her SI card somewhere uncomfortable. I know a French girl who was living in England and had a Pole visiting. He made the mistake of taking a picture of a fountain in Nottingham with kids playing in it. He got arrested, she, oblivious, came home to her flat which had been broken into and ransacked, computers checked (maybe even confiscated?)... thank you british police.
Yesterday's mapper was Marcus Pinker. He's world class. Brian C (possibly the guy in red in the photo?) should be reasonable, but I guess he was doing it on a volunteer basis, so I don't know how much time he would have had to tweak the base map.
Yesterday's mapper was Marcus Pinker. He's world class. Brian C (possibly the guy in red in the photo?) should be reasonable, but I guess he was doing it on a volunteer basis, so I don't know how much time he would have had to tweak the base map.
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