Discussion: skip details from Jim & Clint

I asked Jim Henderson whether anyone had skipped #1. He gave an extended reply:

I have only found one #1 skip so far. In Clint's analysis of the skip possibilities, he says "going east of Gay City Marsh(to #1) saves 416 meters and allows a trail run almotst the entire way - but, will anyone see it in the fury of the mass start?" Number 5 , which was the most chosen "saves 780 meters - numerically the best skip, 4-5-6 is pretty fast running, but 4-6 is a trail run so it is even faster - I suspect a lot of folks will take this one unless they want to "save" their skip. But maybe it will look too obvious?" Number 20 was the second most popular skip. Clint says "a good late race skip, saves 629 meters but I suspect many folks will have skipped by
now."
Number 19 was the third most popular. "Save 513 meters and quite a bit of climb, but then you'd miss that great running leg from 19-20. Besides, 18-19 is mostly trail."
Fourteen was chosen by only one, but here's what Clint says. "Save 759 meters, cuts a lot of distance(2nd best) but the 14-15 leg is a trail run so a lot of folks may not opt to skip this one." In his analysis, Clint also saw 2,8,9 and 17 as possible chioices, but only 2 chose 2 and 8,9 and 17 went unskipped. Number 5 turned out to be the choice of over 50%.(final skip count isn't done yet).
I know this is a lot more info than you asked for, but knowing most orienteers, I thought you'd be interested. Forward this to anyone else you think might be interested.
Jim Henderson

I asked Jim Henderson whether anyone had skipped #1. He gave an extended reply:

I have only found one #1 skip so far. In Clint's analysis of the skip possibilities, he says "going east of Gay City Marsh(to #1) saves 416 meters and allows a trail run almotst the entire way - but, will anyone see it in the fury of the mass start?" Number 5 , which was the most chosen "saves 780 meters - numerically the best skip, 4-5-6 is pretty fast running, but 4-6 is a trail run so it is even faster - I suspect a lot of folks will take this one unless they want to "save" their skip. But maybe it will look too obvious?" Number 20 was the second most popular skip. Clint says "a good late race skip, saves 629 meters but I suspect many folks will have skipped by
now."
Number 19 was the third most popular. "Save 513 meters and quite a bit of climb, but then you'd miss that great running leg from 19-20. Besides, 18-19 is mostly trail."
Fourteen was chosen by only one, but here's what Clint says. "Save 759 meters, cuts a lot of distance(2nd best) but the 14-15 leg is a trail run so a lot of folks may not opt to skip this one." In his analysis, Clint also saw 2,8,9 and 17 as possible chioices, but only 2 chose 2 and 8,9 and 17 went unskipped. Number 5 turned out to be the choice of over 50%.(final skip count isn't done yet).
I know this is a lot more info than you asked for, but knowing most orienteers, I thought you'd be interested. Forward this to anyone else you think might be interested.
Jim Henderson

I asked Jim Henderson whether anyone had skipped #1. He gave an extended reply:

I have only found one #1 skip so far. In Clint's analysis of the skip possibilities, he says "going east of Gay City Marsh(to #1) saves 416 meters and allows a trail run almotst the entire way - but, will anyone see it in the fury of the mass start?" Number 5 , which was the most chosen "saves 780 meters - numerically the best skip, 4-5-6 is pretty fast running, but 4-6 is a trail run so it is even faster - I suspect a lot of folks will take this one unless they want to "save" their skip. But maybe it will look too obvious?" Number 20 was the second most popular skip. Clint says "a good late race skip, saves 629 meters but I suspect many folks will have skipped by
now."
Number 19 was the third most popular. "Save 513 meters and quite a bit of climb, but then you'd miss that great running leg from 19-20. Besides, 18-19 is mostly trail."
Fourteen was chosen by only one, but here's what Clint says. "Save 759 meters, cuts a lot of distance(2nd best) but the 14-15 leg is a trail run so a lot of folks may not opt to skip this one." In his analysis, Clint also saw 2,8,9 and 17 as possible chioices, but only 2 chose 2 and 8,9 and 17 went unskipped. Number 5 turned out to be the choice of over 50%.(final skip count isn't done yet).
I know this is a lot more info than you asked for, but knowing most orienteers, I thought you'd be interested. Forward this to anyone else you think might be interested.
Jim Henderson

I asked Jim Henderson whether anyone had skipped #1. He gave an extended reply:

I have only found one #1 skip so far. In Clint's analysis of the skip possibilities, he says "going east of Gay City Marsh(to #1) saves 416 meters and allows a trail run almotst the entire way - but, will anyone see it in the fury of the mass start?" Number 5 , which was the most chosen "saves 780 meters - numerically the best skip, 4-5-6 is pretty fast running, but 4-6 is a trail run so it is even faster - I suspect a lot of folks will take this one unless they want to "save" their skip. But maybe it will look too obvious?" Number 20 was the second most popular skip. Clint says "a good late race skip, saves 629 meters but I suspect many folks will have skipped by
now."
Number 19 was the third most popular. "Save 513 meters and quite a bit of climb, but then you'd miss that great running leg from 19-20. Besides, 18-19 is mostly trail."
Fourteen was chosen by only one, but here's what Clint says. "Save 759 meters, cuts a lot of distance(2nd best) but the 14-15 leg is a trail run so a lot of folks may not opt to skip this one." In his analysis, Clint also saw 2,8,9 and 17 as possible chioices, but only 2 chose 2 and 8,9 and 17 went unskipped. Number 5 turned out to be the choice of over 50%.(final skip count isn't done yet).
I know this is a lot more info than you asked for, but knowing most orienteers, I thought you'd be interested. Forward this to anyone else you think might be interested.
Jim Henderson

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Hey Ted, saw your complaints about drinking from
jugs. I have to agree...pretty gross. Just so you
know, Greg and I lost at least 15s fumbling to
open the cups and jugs at #14, and we DID use
cups. Didn't take water at 16 and didn't see if
they had been opened by the 2 dudes ahead of us.
Greg and I both took water in the start triangle
on the way to 17. There were no cups there, so I
did the "air-pour" method, getting some into my
mouth and alot on my shirt, but the jug never
touched my filthy mouth. I took water at 8, and 3
fig newtons, the last of which ended up mostly
smeared on my map. I can't remember ever licking
a map before. I had water (from a cup) at least
once more after 17. Can't remember where though.
Remember that the 10s people save drinking
without a cup might translate into 2 weeks of
down time from a cold for you and everyone behind
you. "air-pour" wastes water, and takes longer than
using a cup. PLEASE use cups.

I'm new to this site, but I find the graphs
entertaining. "Superman" (gee
he flies a lot of events)
reversed time and warped space to control #13.
What's the explanation on the +30 min on a
2-3 min control? Superman is a big cheater.

Eddie for Superman 2001!