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Discussion: a personal question

in: Adventure Racing; General

Jul 2, 2019 2:12 AM # 
What do people use for chamois butter/ loin lube? I've used a combo of Boudreaux's Butt Paste and Body the Boudreaux's but I've noticed the the Body Glide tends not to last through longer stretches of time. Any other recommendations?
Jul 2, 2019 12:48 PM # 
DZNuts Pro has worked very well for 24 hrs after a single generous application for me. Eric Caravella told me about a custom sauce for pre-application to the chamois for longer races that was a combo of athletic lube, triple antibiotic with pain relief and antifungal cream (lotrimin). That may be therapeutic as well as preventative although it seems like it would be low-viscosity to me. Maybe someone can share the recipe?
Jul 2, 2019 1:01 PM # 
Chamois Butt’r applied at every opportunity.
Be careful with options like Sportslick which include petrolatum/petroleum jelly. I’m pretty sure it deteriorated my 2XU tights in an area you don’t want stray bits of Lycra floating around.
Jul 2, 2019 2:43 PM # 
I know this is counter to your experience, but I've had good success with copious amounts of Body Glide under a liberal application of Chamois Butt'r. What type of shorts are you wearing?
Jul 2, 2019 5:49 PM # 
Body Glide works for about 10-20 hours but usually needs a reapplication. It has been fine but was wondering what else was being used.

I use a variety of shorts but all with a hammock-style mesh interior.

I have also heard about the triple-cream combo (From the book "Fix your Feet") but their recipe calls for petroleum jelly, which scared me away.

I've got some Chamois Butter and may invest in DZNuts as well, just to give each a try.

Thanks for the suggestions!
Jul 2, 2019 6:52 PM # 
You mean like a gym shorts/bathing suit mesh interior?? On bike legs?
Jul 3, 2019 12:22 AM # 
On longer bike legs in XPDs, I switch to bike shorts. But I find wearing tight shorts for long periods of times tends to shift the wrong direction (does that innuendo make sense?), causing chafing.

Typically, I'll wear running shorts, lightweight, fast-drying, with pockets, and yes, an aerated wicking liner.
Jul 4, 2019 3:31 PM # 
I actually struggle as well with irritation during longer spells of running shorts - my suggestion above works well for bike shorts. I'd be interested to hear if any of these are successful for the shorts that you prefer.
Jul 7, 2019 6:18 PM # 
Gurney Goo.
Jul 7, 2019 9:10 PM # 
Gurney Goo is silicone based, much better for damp AR conditions.
There’s a silicone diaper lube called Barriere which is readily available and works really well too.
Jul 7, 2019 11:04 PM # 
+1 for gurney goo and monkey butt paste works miracles everywhere for everyone. I put little bits in pill pouches and carry on all races.
Jul 7, 2019 11:37 PM # 
So where do you get the gurney goo? Amazon ca has it for $40 for 10 ml. That seems crazy.
Jul 8, 2019 1:25 AM # 
Jul 8, 2019 12:36 PM # 
Disclaimer: we are sponsored by Foot Kinetics. We have been using their Hike-Goo/Run Goo. Honestly, the stand out thing about them: their product is non-petroleum based, so MUCH kinder on clothes and healthier for you. We used Sportslick for a long time before that. I still buy the small portable tubes of sportslick because they are so ideal for being out on the course, but I use the Foot Kinetics products for one time application and in TAs. Foot Kinetics Hike Goo markets as being long lasting. No scientific data on that claim, BUT I have felt that it lasts for a good long while. I really haven't had any notable chafing in years.

THIS said: my strong feeling is there are several very comparable products out there that all are close. From my experience the single biggest factor determining chafing is application timing and discipline. I've watched so many people grumble about taking 90 seconds to stop and apply, get stubborn and push on (me included) and then pay an irreversible price later on. even less time for a hand down your pants. So, the #1 priority is having something you can carry on course, something you can pull out without removing your pack, and then the awareness to apply ahead of time as needed. If you do all that, then I don't think there is a magic product, whatever you personally prefer. And, I don't think it's realistic to trust ANT product to last for 24 hours. Maybe not even 12. Some say they do, but when you consider what we do in AR, the tight clothes, the biking, the paddling, etc., it doesn't last. Shift gears from trying to find something that works for a whole race upon one application to a more systematic approach.

Of course, gear fit matters too, especially with your personal geometry and quirks.
Jul 8, 2019 1:07 PM # 
Broots, I thought the Hike Good was just for feet? Is the Run Goo a different product?
Jul 8, 2019 1:31 PM # 
FWIW I've had good luck with Desitin. A little less "lube like", but it stays on FOREVER (maybe too long), and helps prevent the skin from absorbing too much moisture. YMMV.
Jul 10, 2019 12:51 PM # 
Try this:
works like a dream!
Jul 11, 2019 9:08 PM # 
I used a packet of Hike Goo for non-foot related issues in an emergency during UNE last summer, and it worked rather well in that area.
Jul 12, 2019 1:12 PM # 
I have had great luck with Risamine lotion, which some version can be found at most pharmacies. It's basically the same concept as Desitin, I would highly suggest it.
I've recently discovered Gurney Goo and had good luck with it. It's a bit more flexible in terms of usage and has some antibiotic properties.
TA= Risamine, ON course = Gurney Goo small tube

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